Good night
Thanks for all the fantastic posts everyone. Full house except for Lana. Come on Lana! Night all. 🤗
Don't come on Lana — come on Eileen! Good Night lovelies. 😘
Speaking of coming, did we post this on its being Number 1 anniversary recently? I think we may have forgotten. How remiss of us! Night night, Privates. 😘
Goodnight everyone 🤗
Quote from Lois Hi on October 21, 2022, 10:18 pm60’s I got at the end of the first line of singing.
And that was the end of getting anything 😂 I do know the 80’s song but not the intro, which is the name of the game 🤣
Who’s up for Naked Twister? 🥰
I think the majority of us had a bad day yesterday but seeing as Major Houlihan didn't use as many skips as us for the 60s track we are once again taking up the rear Lois !😜
Better this morning though. 60s I did have to skip til the singing started .
70s I did use 1 skip then the drum beat changed (Proper drums Major!). I almost was gonna hazard a guess without a skip but luckily I didn't cos I'd have been a million miles out. And probably about 10 years out as it was an 80s track.🙄
80s will be instantly recognisable for everyone. The song has been covered but not by Britney as far as I know Lois.😉
So overall not a bad morning. Maybe the naked twister is helping my brain cells.
Only problem is that it's not much fun on your own.☹
Lois was right about the name of the game. I think we all know the 60s track but the intro threw me. I have since discovered that there was a reason for fannying about on the piano before playing the full riff that I needed. It relates to being delighted with their new sound that came about through using a home-made compressor built by Denis King—yes, composer of the Black Beauty theme. Ironically, in a song about arguments, about three different people claimed responsibility for the sound discovery.
The record will show that I got the 70s way faster.
Scam. I’m pretty certain I don’t know the 70s song. Sorry, artist, I’ve no recollection of ever hearing it. But the drum sound is famous and it’s there on the first skip. I typed in the artist and Heardle gave me four answers of which I’d recognise three. The answer was the other.
No, it’s not fine! Jeez.
80s: Once the guitar made it into the last fraction of the first skip, I knew the song, the name of the song and the artist legitimately. That’s the actual name of the game.
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Quote from Hot Lips Houlihan on October 22, 2022, 11:41 amLois was right about the name of the game. I think we all know the 60s track but the intro threw me. I have since discovered that there was a reason for fannying about on the piano before playing the full riff that I needed. It relates to being delighted with their new sound that came about through using a home-made compressor built by Denis King—yes, composer of the Black Beauty theme. Ironically, in a song about arguments, about three different people claimed responsibility for the sound discovery.
The record will show that I got the 70s way faster.
Scam. I’m pretty certain I don’t know the 70s song. Sorry, artist, I’ve no recollection of ever hearing it. But the drum sound is famous and it’s there on the first skip. I typed in the artist and Heardle gave me four answers of which I’d recognise three. The answer was the other.
No, it’s not fine! Jeez.
80s: Once the guitar made it into the last fraction of the first skip, I knew the song, the name of the song and the artist legitimately. That’s the actual name of the game.
Heardle 60s #163
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I do know the 70s track Major and probably should have got it straight off. You really do know your drummers!
I don’t know that much about drummers Major but the drum sound was familiar from a famously sampled 1971 beat.
I should turn this into a blog with Dead Alice but for now…
Not yet Debbie.
The way the intro to When The Levee Breaks was recorded was important for two reasons. Besides the exceptional ability of John Bonham, the sound was huge and clean. Nothing was played over it for a couple of bars. In the normal course of events drummers may copy this, engineers may copy the sound but by and large moments like this would have a limited lifespan. The evolution of sampling changed everything.
Famous beats like for When The Levee Breaks, or basslines for Under Pressure or Walk On the Walk Side were sampled to produce new works. This has led to a false impression of piggy-backing on hits. Equally, totally unknown and forgotten beats and moments from songs were sampled and given new life as hits. Most people wouldn’t know zip about the b-side of a Winstons’ single from 1969 but, seeing as a breakbeat for it- the Amen Break- has been sampled over 3000 times, they’ve heard it somewhere, somehow by now whether they realise it or not.
For music to evolve like this a number of things had to happen. People had to have a vision of change. Few people saw the potential of what was about to happen in the 80s. Samplers had to become affordable to a greater number of artists unlike when Peter Gabriel was just about the only person on earth with one. This happened in 1986 with the E-Mu Emax.
The next step was the discovery of breakbeats. Not everyone finds Winstons’ b-sides. These were found by people like Lou Breakbeat Flores who put out compilations like Ultimate Breaks And Beats. Given that so few saw the potential of what was about to happen, Lou presumably obtained the rights for half-nothing or didn’t think too much about it. Lou, also doesn’t seem to have made any real money. This is an under researched area.
The changing landscape also opened up a can of legal issues and money-making opportunities. Who was responsible for breaks like the Amen Break? The drummer, Gregory Coleman who died homeless in 2006, surely? No. The Winstons would have held the copyright. Specifically, the bandleader, Richard Lewis Spencer. Spencer received nothing either until a crowdfund raised around $37000 for him. He was unaware of how often their song had been sampled for at least the first 10 years of its being used.
On our music thread we have 3 videos on the making of Heart Of Glass. It should be apparent how much was involved in producing such an outstanding work.
If I took a shine to a snippet of guitar, keyboard, beat or a bassline from it and built a whole new hit incorporating that snippet, the musicians responsible like Clem Burke, Jimmy Destri, Nigel Harrison and Frank Infante- some of whom are credited on and fully write other songs- would surely be paid. Well, no. Debbie Harry and Chris Stein held the copyright but sold it in 2020.
Harry and Stein, presumably came up with the lyrics and the basic chord sequence. As we know from the 3 videos, that give them a song from 1974 to 1978 that was gathering dust and needed serious work. The work that came from Mike Chapman and the other musicians wouldn’t have come without Harry’s and Stein’s work in the first place, but, without it Heart Of Glass and the timeless hit it became may never have existed.
One of the legacies in a post-sampling world should be to consider who actually did what on songs and whether the copyright holders are truthful representations of reality.
60's I needed the vocals though I did recognise the piano just before the vocals came in. But not enough to get the song. So why did I bother mentioning the piano? Clutching at straws there, Lois 😂😂
70's I didn't get.
80's no skips needed 🤗
Looks like I'm Naked Twister bound. See you there, Margaret 😅
Thanks for all the amazing posts. Night all. 🤗
Goodnight everyone 🤗
Quote from Lois Hi on October 22, 2022, 10:33 pm60’s I needed the vocals though I did recognise the piano just before the vocals came in. But not enough to get the song. So why did I bother mentioning the piano? Clutching at straws there, Lois 😂😂
70’s I didn’t get.
80’s no skips needed 🤗
Looks like I’m Naked Twister bound. See you there, Margaret 😅
As long as there’s no more spanking me for my poor show! Nighty night Privates. 😘
60s: Know the song once the vocals kicked in but don’t really know the band.
70s: Total fail. Know the band but not the song.
80s: Needed the riff. It would be funny if the drum machine was included in that list from the other day. If it was I’ve forgotten it already.
Think I should have been able to do them marginally faster but that’s about as good as it could’ve been for me. Off to work now. Back after 9.
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Quote from Hot Lips Houlihan on October 23, 2022, 10:07 am60s: Know the song once the vocals kicked in but don’t really know the band.
70s: Total fail. Know the band but not the song.
80s: Needed the riff. It would be funny if the drum machine was included in that list from the other day. If it was I’ve forgotten it already.
Think I should have been able to do them marginally faster but that’s about as good as it could’ve been for me. Off to work now. Back after 9.
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Well I may have beat you on the 80s track Major. I say maybe but probably not.
1 question for you though- How in the name of Saint Peter did you get the 60s 1?🤔
And as for the 70s! What happened there ?
Kind drunk/hungover today, hence my late post. I shall leave you now.